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Discussion in 'Miscellaneous Discussion' started by Aurum Noble, 1 July 2012.

  1. Zenfox

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    Keeping with strike news.....Northern and South West have also balloted. Although am the only one that wants a full national rail strike this row going to go on and on and on.

    There needs to be something else news wise
     
  2. Loganberry

    Loganberry Element of Custard

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    Well egg on my grey face.....as I didn't see that :(
     
  4. Zenfox

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    In other news 6M90 Grain to Neasden derailed at Lewisham at 5.30ish this morning causing travel chaos and damage to a busy junction. Southeastern are running a very limited service.
     
  5. Oilyvalves

    Oilyvalves Railway Pony

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    I spent last weekend at the Great Central Railway for their Winter Steam gala. I didn't get any particularly great photos or vidoes, but this guy on Youtube always produces wonderful footage. Best bits are towards the end; night time shots and the Travelling Post Office demonstrations:

     
  6. Wonderbolt

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    Managed to get this for free from work today. I had known it existed (they also did it on vinyl) and though it looked like an interesting curiosity, so was chuffed to see it today and saved it from being thrown away, not listened to it yet but even if its not so great its still an interesting 1980's curiosity.
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  7. Loganberry

    Loganberry Element of Custard

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    An update for the SVR Diesel Festival, and there are four new guest locos: a second 33, a 37, a 47 and a "mystery loco". That brings the guest list to 12 in all. Those with an asterisk are new additions since I last posted about the DF:

    Class 17 no. D8568
    Class 31 no. 31271
    Class 33 no. 33035
    * Class 33 no. 33108
    * Class 37 no. D6700
    Class 45 no. 45041 Royal Tank Regiment
    Class 45 no. 45060 Sherwood Forester
    * Class 47 no. 47828
    Class 55 no. 55022 Royal Scots Grey
    Class 66 (from GBRf; identity TBC)
    Class 73 (from GBRf; identity TBC)
    * Class ?? (from DB Cargo UK; identity TBC)

    Also, the timetable has been published, but as of now it doesn't include loco allocations. Note the extra Kidderminster-Bewdley shuttles at the bottom:

    http://www.svr.co.uk/pdf/Special Events/SVR Spring Diesel Festival 2017 Timetable.pdf
     
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  8. vaska00762

    vaska00762 R6 Siege fan

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    I went to the DB Mueum annex in Halle yesterday, and I took a number of pictures while I was there. This annex (of the main DB Musuem in Nuremburg) specialises in the railways of the former GDR and the Deutsche Reichsbahn in that period. Few items are from the Deutsche Bundesbahn, and even fewer from the modern Deutsche Bahn.

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    The ICE I took from Berlin Südkreuz. It came from Hamburg Altona and went on towards Innsbruck in Austria.

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    Leipzig Hauptbahnhof (though which I has to transfer) has a number of old locomotives on display at the unused platform 24. Here is the experiemental "Flying Hamburger" (Fliegender Hamburger) which set rail speed records in the Weimar Republic.
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    Platforms 1 and 2 at Leipzig Hauptbahnhof have been removed and repurposed as both platforms have been moved underground for the use of the S-Bahn Mitteldeutschland (and one InterCity train a day)
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    The DB Museum is located at the Halle Steintorbrücke S-Bahn and Regionalbahn station. Access to the museum is directly from the station platform.
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    As I arrived, a Deutsche Reichsbahn Baureihe 243 (now DB Baureihe 143) was shunted out of the roundhouse onto the turntable by a battery powered shunter. This locomotive was refurbished and reliveried in the old DR scheme. The BR 143 is still in sevice across Germany though, and can be seen in everyday service, despite being built in the former GDR.
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    The DB BR E18 is unusual here, as there are two side by side. Both were built before the War by AEG Berlin and the two were only built a few years apart. The one in blue was inherrited by the Bundesbahn in the Federal Republic while the one in green was inherrited by the Reichsbahn in the GDR.
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    A fireless locomotive. This one was used by the chemical industry in Halle before the war. Apparently, water at 200 degrees celcius would be filled into the tank under high atmospheric pressure at the start of the day. That was enough for shunting and moving freight wagons to a freight yard. This one was later inherrited by the state owned industry and continued to operate until diesel and battery locomotives were made available. Apparently, some industries still use and maintain fireless locomotives in Germany as their performance cannot be matched by modern replacements.
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    This DR BR 89 was in use for the Berliner S-Bahn prior to electricfication in 1909. It was retired soon after and became in use for branch lines elsewhere.
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    This DR BR 52 is so large, it cannot fit into the shot. Steam locomotives like these were in use after the War for many years and were not withdrawn from service until the 1970s in some instances. While Eastern Germany was electrified, a large amount was damaged during the War, and even more was dismantled and taken to the Soviet Union as war reparations. Since these locomotives were designed to run on black coal, the problem was that coal like that was only obtainable in the Ruhrgebiet. Eastern Germany only had brown coal, which did not work very well on these locomotives. Some was powderised to allow for it to burn, but the danger from explosions ended that. The DR converted their steam locomotives to run on oil, which could easily be imported from the Soviet Union.
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    The DR BR 130 (DB BR 230) was built in the Soviet Union, today Ukraine. Based on Soviet diesel locomotives, this diesel electric locomotive features several pieces of design which are relics of the original Soviet design, which had no use on the German railways. The hook and eye coupling for example was a simple modification made to the automatic couplers which was originally installed. Another strange modification was the use of 16.7 Hz AC. The German standard of electrification was and still is 16.7 Hz AC. This is primarily for train heating, and was always centralised in the locomotive (something the Soviets did not do). The generator was modified to produce 16.7 Hz AC and the motors were also modified to accept this.
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    The plates identifying the locomotive and the manufacturer of the locomotive.
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    The journey back to Berlin. I don't know if it was the same trainset, but the train was doing the reverse of the journey I had made that morning.
     
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    The BR 130s are classics though, they look bombproof.
     
  10. vaska00762

    vaska00762 R6 Siege fan

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    Built in Ukraine, those things were nicknamed "Ludmilla". I was allowed inside the locomotive and was shown round inside. The cab is certainly something else, with a wheel to control the speed and standard air brakes to the side as well, that thing is pretty interesting, plus the height above the ground is something else as well. Compared to a multiple unit, the ride height is something not to forget. The locomotive though cannot run on its own power unless it's in a closed railway not boung by German law. Under German law, all trains have to feature the PZB 90 train protection system in order to run on the lines (a bit like all trains requiring AWS and TPWS to run on UK lines, including Northern Ireland). Since that locomotive didn't have PZB 90 installed, it couldn't run on the German railways unless it had it installed. Not a tall order, but that particular locomotive was one of the many prototypes sent from the Soviet Union for testing.

    The thing features a V16 engine, I didn't ask if it was 2 or 4 stroke, but apparently the engines were so powerful, they had to install sound mufflers in order to make the engine noise not leave the engine room. The doors between the engine room and the sort of corridor in the loco are very thick indeed, and there's another door between that corridor and the driving cab, which is normally sized.

    The DB BR 230 (Deutsche Bahn renumbered all the locomotives and multiple units after reunification) is still in use by DB Cargo/Schenker in Germany for use mostly on unelectrified lines. Some freight only lines are just not used enough, so the likes of the DB BR 266 (A.K.A. Class 66) and the BR 230 are in use. I've seen a number of the BR 230s in use on freight only lines around Berlin. Those lines are very much a bizarre thing and I've heard that DB and a few others want to dismantle or repurpose those lines since inner-city freight could be done cheaper with lorries.

    I understand that some private operating companies and private freight hauling companies in Germany have some BR 230s and some have decided that it's worth it to use them to haul railtours around Germany with them. Apparently, there are enough people interested in a Ukrainian built locomotive to get on a train hauled by one!
     
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    In strike news

    Staff on Northern, Southern rail and Merseyrail are striking on the 13th of March.
     
  12. Wonderbolt

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    Thank god its not next week when I go to York =p
     
  13. Loganberry

    Loganberry Element of Custard

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    I'll get some SVR spring gala photos up here eventually (it was a very good two days, with @Oilyvalves joining me on the Saturday) but a little news item that may be of interest to a few people. This coming weekend (25/26 March) the SVR will have a "Southern Sunset" weekend, marking 50 years since the end of Southern Region steam. Locos in use will be visitors 34081 92 Squadron and 41312, plus resident 34027 Taw Valley, all with Southern Region history. Normal weekend timetable, normal fares.

    More info at http://www.svr.co.uk/NewsItem.aspx?a=774
     
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    Yes, it was an excellent day at the SVR last Saturday. Seeing a running 'Spam Can' in malachite green with yellow stripes for the first time in around 10 years was a real treat. :)

    I've now sorted through the 100 odd pictures I took (which, amazingly included more than one which wasn't of '92 Squadron' :p). They can be found here:
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/technoandrew/albums/72157679239468092

    Here are a few highlights (including all 3 Bulleids :D):

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  15. Hampshire Brony

    Hampshire Brony Shaun of the dead

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    I went over that bit of track last night - I've just had no need to be there since I normally drive to somewhere within the Travelcard area, rather than get the train in.
    Felt quite strange being there again
     
  16. Loganberry

    Loganberry Element of Custard

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    Bonus while waiting for my train to Worcester at Kidderminster this morning:

    First 5043 Earl of Mount Edgcumbe passing at speed with a tour in the Worcester direction. Looked like about 60 mph, which is a big difference from what you get on a heritage line! (The loco is passed for 75 mph running, but I don't know what the line speed is through Kiddy station.)

    Then top-and-tailed Class 57s taking the empty Belmond Pullman stock from the SVR onto the main line northbound. Much slower of course, as they'd only just got going.

    Something for kettle and box fans today. :)
     
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    I always think a 57 is a consolation find lol, nicer than a 66 but still not the "real thing" (a 47) lol =p
     
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    I know what you mean; we had some 'proper' 47s in the siding at Derby station a few weeks back which were a nice surprise.

    66s are wonderful machines but pretty damn boring given their frequency.
     
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    Never liked 66s always felt meh to them, I prefer the look either of UK BR built traction, or US/Canadian built traction in its normal Hood format (59 used a SD42-2 engine and 66 uses an engine found in many modern US diesels). 66 (and 59) just feels like an odd mix between the two styles.
     
  20. Loganberry

    Loganberry Element of Custard

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    Well, ideally it would have been top-and-tailed by 37s. Then you'd have been able to hear it from Stourbridge Junction. :D
     

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