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Doctor Who

Discussion in 'Audio/Video/Books' started by Kyon, 4 June 2012.

  1. Cloudane

    Cloudane Element of Mostly Excessive Verbosity

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    I'm with the official line, honestly - "it's all about change"
    Having watched up to early 4th in the Classic series - yep it's very different! Do I care? No, that's what makes it interesting!
     
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    Starscream759 Honorary Pony

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    Indeed, Cloudy, indeed. I mean I've been a fan of Doctor Who since the new series first started and already I've been through three different Doctors for the new series soon to be four it's not really going to scare me just because it's a woman. I will say this and I will say this again as people have asked about what my opinion is on Jodie Whittaker and it's simply: I'm giving her a chance I don't know much about her but I'm giving her a chance. I'm not going to base my opinion based on her being a woman in the role I'm basing my opinion on her performance as the Doctor which is what it should be and wait for what she does in the Christmas special as well as her first appearance as the Doctor. Hell I've dealt with all the classic series Doctors and I've seen them all change and I didn't bat an eyelid when I was watching their stories at the very least.
     
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  3. Cloudane

    Cloudane Element of Mostly Excessive Verbosity

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    I spy Polly!
    I wonder then, if the scene with her is towards the end when 1st returns to his timeline... whatever happens could end up explaining why the 1st Doctor went from right as rain to just suddenly being all "worn out" during the course of the original Cybermen arc, which consisted of him doing nothing / being missing / lurking around in bed most of the time as far as I recall :p
     
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    "I don't suppose either of you is a doctor?"
    "You trying to be funny?"

    Oh 12 - love ya, buddy. Definitely going to miss him a ton. Maybe even nearly as much as I missed 10. (Although a lot of that was to do with not liking 11, and I dearly hope 13 won't let me down in that regard.)
    And heya, Bill! :)

    (Can't offer much comment on the Classic Who bits - I never watched any of it. Please don't tar and feather me. :p)
     
  5. nerdowl

    nerdowl Dr Who & MLP Fangirl

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    I really wanted to comment on the trailer but right now I'm too upset at this fandom for making Peter Davison feel so unwelcome that he's had to say goodbye on Twitter. :(

    Clarification of what he actually said (rather than the out-of-context media soundbite):- ,

    His farewell message:-

    And a RadioTimes article about it: http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2017...-after-toxicity-around-female-doctor-comments
     
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    Cloudane Element of Mostly Excessive Verbosity

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    Yeah it's such a shame. As per the 2p I threw in on Faceache, if the digital media weren't so obsessed with clickbaiting and actually showed the true context of what he said, so much less of this (or in fact many incidences of soundbites being used to demonise people and send the public shaming brigade after them) would have happened.
     
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    Loganberry Element of Custard

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    Although I'm sad to see Peter Davison make that decision, I'm not particularly surprised. Twitter has become a rather unpleasant place for some types of discussion -- a big reason I've largely stopped posting serious stuff there and moved it to a locked account with a limited audience. It seems to be open season for sheer abuse in a way that didn't happen anything like so much when the Who fandom was based around blogs like LiveJournal a few years back.

    On a happier note, the trailer made me smile so much! I am really looking forward to the Christmas Special now! One thing that occurred: when the two TARDISes were side by side, I have to say I much preferred the look of One's -- it seemed more organic and well-proportioned somehow. Twelve's seemed almost "home-made" and too clean by comparison.
     
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    nerdowl Dr Who & MLP Fangirl

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    Doctor Who news: some new regular characters and cast have been announced, plus they have confimed a run of ten eps of 50minutes (1hour for episode 1) for Series 11 which is now definitely confirmed as airing Autumn 2018. For more info the BBC Press release is here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/latestnews/2017/doctor-who-cast
     
  9. Cloudane

    Cloudane Element of Mostly Excessive Verbosity

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    This is the thing that bugs me with Who, you have to wait a full year for just a handful of episodes...
     
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    Hmmm…I dunno…I'm very mixed on the news so far. The rumours about Bradley Walsh have been confirmed to be true while I did like him in the Sarah Jane Adventures episode where he played Oddbob the Clown as well as Spellman and thought he was genuinely creepy as them but as a companion for Doctor Who I don't know at this point. While again I'll reserve my opinion for the first episode of the new series I'm honestly not thrilled that he's in the show. Same goes to Tosin Cole and Mandip Gill who are pretty much unknown faces when it comes to TV with little to no experience in that field and their past credentials isn't giving me a good impression on them either. Then again they might turn out good like Pearl Mackie did as Bill in Series 10 but then again they might not. Again I'm reserving my opinions on all of three of these companions until the very first episode.
     
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    Hm. Heard a while back that Bradley Walsh might be the companion and hoped it wasn't true. Not a big fan of the idea - he seems a nice enough guy and a decent actor, but he's the kind of person whom I feel like I'll only ever see as Bradley Walsh and not as his character. Also, it's weird, but I prefer having relatively unknown or low-profile actors in Doctor Who rather than established celebrities - I was already a little uneasy about how well-known Jodie Whittaker is.

    That said, I could well be proven wrong, and I'll be happy if I am. After all, my favourite companion* is Donna, and she was played by a celebrity.

    * Well, probably favourite - I find it very hard to pick just one!
     
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    nerdowl Dr Who & MLP Fangirl

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    nerdowl Dr Who & MLP Fangirl

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    Why would Radio Times lie? But just for further info:-

    I like the coat. That's all I can say positive about that costume right now. (I'm hoping I'll change my mind about the rest of it).
     
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    Cloudane Element of Mostly Excessive Verbosity

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    Don't know about the clown pants.

    Whatever though, long as she does a good job!
     
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    I like it! It's... quirky. Quite a 70s vibe.
     
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    No it's not that I thought they were lying it's just I couldn't really believe it was the costume. Just because of how…normal looks. Yeah I'm not sure about this one really.
     
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    Well, here goes. I'm still not sure what to make of the Christmas special, if I'm honest - while some elements were good, it felt like a bit of a damp squib to finish the Twelfth Doctor's (and Steven Moffat's) run, and in my mind at least it's been overshadowed by the controversy around the Thirteenth. David Bradley was great, if not quite Hartnell-esque, as the First Doctor, Mark Gatiss was surprisingly lovable as the Captain, and as always Peter Capaldi was just about perfect.

    The setting of the Christmas Day truce was a nice positive twist, and the way this became a key part of Who lore (without it, a certain Brigadier may never have come to be) was fairly clever while carrying that message that seems to have always been there in Doctor Who: even the smallest act of kindness can change the world (as a wise pink pony said/sang, 'one small thing can be the biggest thing of all').

    But I sort of struggle to remember what actually happened in the episode (though that could be festive merriment talking) - there were some aliens who recorded people's deaths or something, Bill was there for some reason (even though I thought she'd become an immortal water creature thing, so apparently she died again offscreen so she could come back as a ghost in this one), and Clara showed up even though I thought the Doctor had had his memory wiped of her. And many of those maddening Moffat twists were absent: there was no real timey-wimey storyline (some characters went on an adventure and then went back to where/when they started), no really scary aliens (let's not forget this is the guy who gave us the Weeping Angels, the Silence and the Whispermen), and not many of his usual self-aware jokes (though the scene where One told Bill off for swearing was quite funny). And I can appreciate that this episode was probably confusing for many casual fans: why is the Doctor friends with a Dalek now? Where did those aliens go? Why did the reluctant-to-die Doctor suddenly change his mind?

    It wasn't a bad episode by any means, but neither would I say it was very good. And, while it may be all the controversy around Thirteen overshadowing it, I'm not sure if it really felt like a fitting finale for Moffat and Capaldi. Eleven's last words were 'I will always remember...', but I'm not sure if there was a great deal to remember in this episode. :/

    On Jodie Whittaker and her casting, I have to say that the behaviour of the fans (on both sides of the debate) has been incredibly unpleasant. Whatever the arguments are for/against a female Doctor, there is no excuse for the way Whovians have behaved toward their fellow fans this (well, last) year. On the one side, there have been unprintable sexist comments and vicious sniping at those alright with the casting, but on the other I've seen just as much vitriol directed at anyone who dares to have concerns about it (Peter Davison being the obvious example), with no attempt seeming to be made by either side to understand the other.

    And I think it's moved on from the rights and wrongs of casting a female lady woman, and more to the issue of how Doctor Who fans treat each other. So, with a heavy heart, I have to say that I don't think I'm going to be watching the next series of Doctor Who. The fandom has made me ashamed to call myself a Whovian, and I feel that the way for me to 'protest' against the sheer nastiness of it all is to consciously avoid the series. As Tegan said, 'it's stopped being fun', and I think my time is better spent on other, more positive things.

    If nothing else, though, this experience has made me appreciate what a great community bronies (and particularly this site) are, and what a good fandom should be like.
     
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    So who's ready for tonight? :D
     
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