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Griffish Isles 2019 - Manchester 11th May 2019 (Info and feedback)

Discussion in 'Conventions Discussion' started by HypnoHooves, 11 October 2018.

  1. Eunos the Fool

    Eunos the Fool Proud Hater of Sparity

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    Ok I probably wont go into as much detail as other people here have as I still haven't been home yet since the Con ended ;D

    Been to Crewe Heritage Centre and Liverpool since. Finally return South tomorrow.

    Either way left Thursday evening and stayed half way up.. I still have nightmares about the 9 hour journeys to BUCK so I prefer to break the journey in 2 parts now.. Yes I know I could Go by Rail or even Air but there you go.

    Anyway the crazy thing about Manchester for me now is that even though 12 Months have passed since I was last up there.. As soon as I get up there it feels like I've never left.. Other places I get this are Ludwigsburg and Germany and Glasgow in Scotland.

    On Fridays I can't resist a nostalgia trip just before the Pub Meet.. Drove past the venue of the Final BUCK and took some photos of the outside.. If you're a member of the GI Facebook you have seen me post them there last Friday ;D.

    Pub Meet was alright, I wish I didn't suck at socialising but alas there you go.. Least I met some familiar faces.

    The Con itself.. Honestly I thought it was better than last year..

    I liked the edition of the 2nd building as well.. I got commissions from the likes of Ponebooth, Jowybean, BaDoodle and I do apologise for not remember the other one >.<.. I spent way more Money than planned.. and that doesn't help when you have a Galacon/Bronycon double coming up :p

    The Museum was a nice edition.. Whilst like many I jumped in on this generations I think things like UK Ponycon have helped me respect the earlier generations (Except you G3.5..Go play in Fire)

    The after Party was alright as well.

    I must admit I didn't realise how close we are to the main city where we were.. It's only as I met people I knew that we went into Town whilst waiting for the venue to open.

    It was alright, once again the fact that I really suck as Socialising made things a little awkward but was still able to enjoy. At least I was able to stay to the end this year unlike last year Where I had to leave early as I had work the next day.

    This year I'm still not home :p

    Lee Tocker did seem like a cool guy but I never met or spoke to him unlike Elly last year who immediately commented on my T-Shirt.

    So all In all I really enjoyed Griffish Isles.. Will I do it again next year?.. I don't see why not.

    Even though G4 will be finished by then and the sad fact is the Fandom is a shell of it's former self.. It's clear it still has it's loyal fans and hopefully it wont fully go away anytime soon.

    So yeah since GI ended I was at The Crewe Heritage Centre checking out the APT Train etc then at Liverpool where I visited the Beatles experience etc.. But that's all irrelevant to this thread :p.. But I just felt whilst I'm up this part of the Country why not go check stuff out you normally wouldn't have the chance to do? ;D

    I'll shut up now.
     
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  2. Violet Rose

    Violet Rose Recognised Pony

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    Ho boy, the feedback thread! I want to split my comments into three parts, since I was there as both a vendor and a 'panelist' (workshop-runner?) and so my perspective on each will be very different.

    As an attendee
    Uh... I had fun! I was mostly at my table, doing my workshop, or eating lunch, so I didn't really get to experience the convention until the evening. I was also in a sour mood at first because I hadn't eaten enough dinner (totally my fault), so getting a bucket of chips at the venue was a lifesaver. After that I had lots of fun at the pub quiz, watching the charity auction, and just hanging out :)

    As a vendor
    This is, sadly, where all of my negative feedback will be: of the handful of vendors I spoke to [in both venues], very few broke even, let alone made any profit. I left for a few hours due to my workshop, but according to my neighbours, the foot traffic was minimal until the autograph session at about 2:30 pm - I suspect that the attendees didn't know we were there due to the complete lack of signage. If the vendors in the main room were being neglected, it wasn't for us :p

    Splitting the vendors was an interesting idea, but I would strongly recommend against doing it again - if nothing else, it's a recipe for resentment, since we all seemed to think at first that the vendors in the other room were getting the better deal. If organisational control suddenly dropped on my head, I would do a terrible job no one have me organise stuff put all of the vendors in one location, probably the main hall and allow half-table sales and table sharing for the sake of added variety!

    This is utterly speculation and not well-informed on my part, but I also wonder if having the charity auction wrap up before the vendor hall closes would help? That way, attendees aren't forced to do the calculus of "I want this thing but I also want this auction thing and I need to know how much money to set aside...", and those who are disappointed at the auction can still go Buy The Thing. I don't participate in the charity auction myself due to lack of funds, so I would love to have other attendees weigh in on this!

    As a panelist

    Ending on a high note: the convention provided a TON of support to make sure I had everything I need to run a successful workshop! My main point of contact was Librase, and she really went the extra mile to provide materials and tools (especially since I couldn't bring my scissors in my cabin baggage). I also want to apologise again for leaving the room such a mess; I completely forgot to come back and help hoover all of those bean pellets off the floor! ^^; But yes, for anyone who has a fun and accessible workshop idea and wants to test it out, A++ would recommend.
     
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  3. Patrick Rowberry

    Patrick Rowberry waits for series 9 of robot wars

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    agree on the 2nd venue what would of helped more was there to be panel or something else going on there as there was little incentive for people to go there and sing posting it would of made life so much easier also loved you panel enjoyed getting hands on those sorts of panels I real want to see more of in the future shame about the auction though explains why so many items barely went over the £60 margin baring 1
     
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  4. Loganberry

    Loganberry Element of Custard

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    The existence and location of "Venue 2" were announced during the opening ceremony. However, not everyone listens to that! And I agree, the lack of signage was a shame -- even a bit of cardboard would have helped. I know I had to ask someone where the second room was, as it wasn't entirely obvious from the map.

    Edit: I also thought having the auction in the evening was a bit of an odd choice. I wasn't there so can't be sure, but from videos I've seen it seemed very noisy in Powerleague. Plus of course the (admittedly few) families in attendance weren't allowed to stay until auction time thanks to the 8pm limit. Submitting a written bid in advance really isn't the same.
     
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  5. HypnoHooves

    HypnoHooves Habitual Pony

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    Thank-you for all your feedback. We will be emailing forms once we have recovered from last weekend, for more detailed feedback

    Overall public posts appear very positive on enjoying the convention, but with mixed feedback from vendors -it seems takings vary wildly from what some told me. Interestingly I suspect following the advice on previous feedback may have caused some of the issues. But this will be checked out with the vendors.

    I know a number of you have advice on the event to make it better, please respond when we send the emails out. Keep in mind though stuff did go wrong quite a few times, such as the evening security guard who was paid for, but did not turn up, resulting in a manic con chair who wasn't able to help early on as a result :) After a pause in the auction we sorted that out and did raised quite a bit for charity. We also had a restriction on us preventing the auction occurring in the day.

    We will be releasing the amount raised as soon as we can, its complex as unlike other cons more revenue is going to the charity than just the auction. So we need to close the books first to get the final figure.

    We do ask people when making feedback keep things realistic,keep in mind Manchester is an expensive place and costs have increased significantly since 2016 when BUCK had its £100 weekend tickets.
     
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  6. Oilyvalves

    Oilyvalves Railway Pony

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    I currently find myself on a train to Manchester, for the second consecutive week. So it seems like a good time to write up my thoughts about the convention. :)

    Firstly I just want to give a big thanks to @HypnoHooves, @Aldersgate and everyone else who made Griffish Isles happen. You all clearly put in a lot of time and effort. This was my first one-day convention, having missed last year’s G.I. And I don’t feel like I missed out on much compared to the multi-day cons I’ve attended.

    Pre Meet
    Having our own space was really appreciated, and the food was a nice gesture. Lee Tockar showing up was a pleasant surprise. He quickly established himself as an excellent guest. The location was also fairly convenient, being so close to Piccadilly station.

    Main Venue
    The St Thomas Centre has some character, particularly in the main room. The entrance corridor was a bit of a pinch point, but the side activity rooms seemed to work OK. Having the vendors spread out was somewhat tricky, but I still felt I was able to get between all of them a few times throughout the day. Better signage for the 2nd venue vendors would certainly help. It was also nice for the early Gens to be represented in the museum.

    Events
    I really enjoyed the panels I attended, which were Lee’s panel, Ali’s Skype call, the ‘Meaning of Life’ panel and the History of MLP. Lee’s poem recording was an interesting addition. I didn’t mind it, even if it’s not entirely my thing. The opening/closing ceremonies and the cosplay contest also had a good atmosphere. The PA system worked fine for the most part; I could always hear what was going on.

    Evening Venue
    The Powerleague place seemed OK as a place for music performances, having a relaxed get-together/drink, and fun things like plushie stacking. Like the pre-meet, having our own space makes a big difference. Unfortunately there was a shortage of chairs/tables for things like the pub quiz and the auction. But I still had a good time. The one big downside to that place for me is the location. Not a nice area, so leaving late at night you really have to travel as a group, unless you cab it.

    Overall, I’d definitely come to G.I again next year assuming it’s on :). I’ll be sure to fill out the feedback form when the emails come out.
     
  7. Loganberry

    Loganberry Element of Custard

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    Odd. But oh well, if you had no choice then you had no choice. Fair enough.
    That's no problem. :) UK PonyCon also has a variety of charity donation sources, and they also take a little while announcing totals, probably for much the same reasons.
    Fair. We all know there are some things that just aren't going to happen. And on the whole, I was really pretty impressed. :)
     
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  8. P.Morris

    P.Morris New Pony

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    Cheers for the great feedback RE my security guarding. Was a pleasure to work the event, meet you all, and see all the great things you were all doing. I'm sorry I wasn't available to work the evening event too myself, especially since it seems your other security guy didn't turn up?! Unfortunately I already had a shift booked that night. If you want me to work it again next year or any other events drop me a line at petemorris [at] postmaster [dot] co [dot] uk

    Thanks again for the great feedback. Much appreciated

    Morris

    [Mod note: slightly munged email address for anti-spam purposes.]
     
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  9. Librase

    Librase Provider of hugs

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    Thanks for the feedback so far, we are reading and taking it all into account (and have some feedback forms ready to send out!)

    According to my lovely assistant's notes, quite a few items went for over £60. We had a large amount of less expensive items and it looks like we raised quite a bit for charity. However, I see the point you and Vi made about the auction being too late in the day. These things are usually best in the afternoon.
    Eeeeeee, thank you! Glad you enjoyed hosting a panel here. Seems to have gone down well and it's been nice seeing one of the results.
    Thank you for being there, being lovely, and for chatting with me! I was the weird girl sitting at the vimto bonbon table.
     
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  10. Violet Rose

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    D'oh, it didn't even occur to me that this might be the case - most of the people I spoke to were vendors and volunteers who missed the opening ceremony, as did I, so I momentarily forgot that was a thing :p
     

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