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Discussion OOC - Adventures of The Phoenix

Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by Sharpster25, 15 July 2015.

  1. Rare80

    Rare80 His Rareness

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    Sounds like someone's getting angry.

    First of all, it's obvious that the cannon isn't clear about Royal Guard operations and the show hasn't and doesn't need to get into it much. If there's no set-in-stone cannon for this then we as roleplayers are given the opportunity to improvise.

    All I'm worried about is Night Orb overriding something Roseate orders in her Radio Program. If Orb starts negating orders and bossing Rose around, then we're going to have problems. I intended for Rose to have the final say on any Royal Guard telecommunications, if not from rank than from expertise. Even if Rose is rank beneath Orb, she is still a high ranking officer herself and is still the highest ranking officer within the radio division. She'd been specializing in Radio telecom for roughly 50 to 60 years now, and her level of knowledge and dedication would command respect from not only those below her, but above her as well. I cant have Orb overriding her, because if that happens, there'd be little to no difference than whatever power she had as a Corporal. Especially if Orb starts barking at her and treating her like a grunt. Given Rose's headstrong personality and over-formal tendencies, it seems she'd make the perfect head of operations for a given division if she were to have it. Lastly, Night Orb is a Lunar Guard and Roseate Light is a Celestial Guard one could argue that these two ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT branches of the Equestrian Militia. They might not have any Priority whatsoever over each other!

    The real is issue with me is respect. I don't really care who out-ranks whom. I really doesn't matter. They'd both be high ranking officers regardless. However, if Orb needs to give Rose the proper reverence she commands. If you don't want to give Rose this for whatever reason, then just say it now so I can delete my posts and drop out before it's too late.
     
  2. Mista Squishy

    Mista Squishy (ThatSquishyGuy)

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    Just to add. There also is no "army" in Equestria. The Guard(s) are treated as a large scale defence force rather then a army, as none have military ranks other then Shinning, which leads to the thought that the Guards are a mass defence force under the deployment of one commanding authority, who's job is to keep Equestria and the princesses safe.

    Orb isn't in charge of any radio staff, he's overseeing the Mission the Phoenix is currently on and he's a very hands on do-it-yourself pony. never have i intended or wished to be "in charge" of the radio area, hence the war table set up. He's only there for his mission.

    As for bossiness and out ranking, from your post build ups it sounds like your character is going to be the bossy and commanding one, as Orb has no business with her in the first place he wouldn't be. also i'm angry because if we go by the real world rankings it would destroy his entire character as he's been serving for over 60 years and worked his flank off to get there, so treating him like he's waste and not deserving of even a high officer rank after a lifetime of devotion to his country, with high performance levels, is frankly very aggravating, especially since that this is what he's completely built upon: Loyalty, Determination and Respect. so as long as both have respect and control for their authoritative positions as to not act like immature grudge holding privates. then I'm fine. But like me, if there's a pony who can't do their job/is lazy or holds grudges/is unnecessarily rude and sour, he's not going to like it and is the sort to put them in place and give them a kick up the flank to take things seriously. which is why he is against immature people in the work place... one of his pet peeves.

    To summarise, If she doesn't step on his toes, he won't step on her's.

    I think we should let Sharpster decide the Ranking system for this RP anyways, as it's his universe.
     
  3. Sir Dave of Dave

    Sir Dave of Dave I'm not Dave!

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    I feel a bit of déjá vu settling in...
     
  4. Sharpster25

    Sharpster25 Honorary Pony

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    Me.... in charge of something.... oh boy.
    I might ramble a bit here, just a heads up.
    Umm ok, reading back through all this my thoughts are; As far as i can make out, in the show the Royal and Luna guard were just to keep the peace in the capital and to act as bodyguards for royalty, since, if i remember correctly, the only times i've ever seen the guards outside of canterlot was when they were escorting one of the princesses (or VIPs like Twilight in s01 ep01 being Celestias' prized pupil an' all)

    Considering this, maybe then 'Captain' was their highest rank, since their entire force was just one cities garrison.
    But (in the canon of this rp at least) they've had to be completely reorganized into a full military force to contend with the Griffons.

    So yeah, used to be a hired militia with their arms and armour provided by the crown, but has since in the 57 years between 'show canon' and this 'rp canon' been reformed into the Equestrian Military.
    As for ranks in this, since the sites UK based, we'll probably stick with the British army rank system http://www.army.mod.uk/structure/32321.aspx
     
  5. Mista Squishy

    Mista Squishy (ThatSquishyGuy)

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    whelp, time to edit all my posts then.
     
  6. Bronti97

    Bronti97 Double Rainbow??? what does it mean?

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    been meaning to join this roleplay for a while :D I'm currently reading through it, spoke to George about it and he said I could be one of the unconscious ponies, (not sure what situation that means though :'D will find out once I have read it) and I will be bringing in a nurse to the scene ;) her name is Anna but I'm aware there is a minotaur called Anna too (whether she is in this roleplay or not is a different matter) but I can give her a nickname to differentiate them from eachother if I have to :D
     
  7. Mista Squishy

    Mista Squishy (ThatSquishyGuy)

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    could be Annie?
     
  8. Bronti97

    Bronti97 Double Rainbow??? what does it mean?

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    that's what I was thinking :) is Anna on this roleplay? ... if so then we have an ani, annie and anna XD... also on a side note I have decided that I wont be bringing in Ferrum Pango into this roleplay because we already have a smithy :) would you guys object if I bring in 2 ponys into this roleplay? they can wake from unconsciousness from the medical bay :)
     
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  9. Mista Squishy

    Mista Squishy (ThatSquishyGuy)

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    Anna isn't in this so you're all good :p
     
  10. Bronti97

    Bronti97 Double Rainbow??? what does it mean?

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    that's alrighty then :)
     
  11. Sir Dave of Dave

    Sir Dave of Dave I'm not Dave!

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    yeah, only 2 of the 7 unconscious ponies have been described, so I thought the best way to get one of Ash's characters on board would be to have them be rescued from Princess' Crown. we have 5 John/Jane Doe's, so we may as well promote some of them to named characters.
     
  12. Rare80

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    I've followed suit. Since Orb isn't a Captian anymore the dynamic between the two of them might change a little.
     
  13. Sharpster25

    Sharpster25 Honorary Pony

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    Sorry for the trouble my explanation caused. :/
     
  14. Rare80

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    No biggie, I'd rather have clarity in a situation like this.
     
  15. Mista Squishy

    Mista Squishy (ThatSquishyGuy)

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    I believe i'm waiting for other's to post. been a few days since the rest of you posted.
    No problem, i just hate the sound of the rank "General".
     
  16. Rare80

    Rare80 His Rareness

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    I'm going to let the folks on the Phoenix post before I go again. I don't want to get way ahead of everyone a la the Zombie Roleplay.
    I might change Roseate to a full-fledged Colonel after doing some research, because the British ranks are slightly different than the American ones. I didn't even notice the lack of a "General of the Army" rank at first. As I stated in the Roleplay already, Rose is due for another promotion and the title of Brigadier fits her better.

    Brigadier: - "Brigadier is not considered to be a General Officer rank by the British Army but rather a Field officer rank. Brigadiers can command a brigade or be a director of operational capability groups such as a director of staff." (Source: http://army.mod.uk)

    That's little closer the American rank of "Colonel", while "Brigadier" is pretty much a junior General.

    The British rank of Brigadier seems to be closer to what Rose is already doing being the head of the Radio Department. She'll just be finally getting recognized for it. Which at what I intended.
     
  17. Sir Dave of Dave

    Sir Dave of Dave I'm not Dave!

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    There is an equivalent rank to General of the Army called Field Marshal but it's hard to become a Field Marshal since the MoD requested the abolition of five star ranks (people can still become Field Marshals, but they will have to be extremely special, or just bro's with the Queen). Baron Walker of Aldringham is the most recent Field Marshal, he was promoted to that rank almost 2 years ago.

    I think we're waiting on the captain to post
     
  18. Sharpster25

    Sharpster25 Honorary Pony

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    I get on that asap
     
  19. Aethelberdia

    Aethelberdia Returning Pony

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    guys, guys

    how about I put haruka aoki in here
    she'd fit perfectly
     
  20. Sir Dave of Dave

    Sir Dave of Dave I'm not Dave!

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    yes, give the crew nightmares XD
     

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