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Season 8 rankings thread (will be kept open)

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  1. Loganberry

    Loganberry Element of Custard

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    Okay, since the S8 finale has had its first English-language airing now, I think it's time for this thread. With the way international releases are this year, it's not really practical to wait until Discovery Family reaches the end of the season in mid-October. For that reason, there may well be spoilers in this thread. I recommend you do not read any further until you have seen the whole season. The thread will remain open, so don't fret if you're sticking to weekly Pony.

    For anyone new to this, here's how it works:

    1. You must rank all the episodes (from 1-24, as the premiere and finale are treated as single episodes).
    2. No ties are allowed for any position.
    3. You must have personally watched every episode.
    4. Please be careful to identify "School Daze" and "School Raze" correctly!

    You can use this Preference Revealer link to help you decide your ranking, but you are welcome to do it manually if you like. It's also okay to use Preference Revealer and then do some manual tweaking. However, the rules above still need to be adhered to, as otherwise the spreadsheet doesn't work!

    Right, off we go! :) As in previous seasons, I'll post overall summaries here every so often, starting when a reasonable number of people have posted their lists.
     
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  2. Bridle Timeout

    Bridle Timeout I Love Twilight Sparkle

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    1. Friendship University
    2. Horse Play
    3. School Raze (finale)
    4. Father Knows Beast
    5. Surf and/or Turf
    6. On the Road to Friendship
    7. What Lies Beneath
    8. Molt Down
    9. The Washouts
    10. The Mean 6
    11. The Parent Map
    12. School Daze (premiere)
    13. Marks for Effort
    14. Sounds of Silence
    15. A Rockhoof and a Hard Place
    16. The Hearth's Warming Club
    17. The Break Up Breakdown

    18. The Maud Couple
    19. Fake It 'Til You Make It
    20. Grannies Gone Wild
    21. The End in Friend

    22. Yakity-Sax
    23. A Matter of Principals
    24. Non-Compete Clause

    The second half of this season started off really weak, but it came back really strong with several really good episodes in a row. :)

    1-17 are all really good episodes, 18-21 are kind of meh, and 22-24 just aren't very good. :p
     
  3. moody magpie

    moody magpie One shall stand, one shall fall.

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    Well here's my season 8 ranking:

    The Break Up Breakdown
    The Hearth's Warming Club
    What Lies Beneath
    The Washouts
    Sounds of Silence
    Surf and/or Turf
    Horse Play
    On the Road to Friendship
    School Raze (finale)
    Grannies Gone Wild
    A Rockhoof and a Hard Place
    The Maud Couple
    The Mean 6
    The Parent Map
    School Daze (premiere)
    The End in Friend
    Molt Down
    Friendship University
    Father Knows Beast
    A Matter of Principals
    Marks for Effort
    Fake It 'Til You Make It
    Yakity-Sax
    Non-Compete Clause

    Personally I thought both halfs of the season started slowly but they picked up towards the end. I had Break Up Breakdown as my favourite as it was one of funniest episodes of the season and Non-Compete Clause the worst as it was just awful. If I had to rank the season out of all them I would rank it 5th. Season 5 is still my favourite.
     
  4. Danishbrony2011

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    1. Surf and/or Turf
    2. School Raze
    3. School Daze
    4. The Washouts
    5. The Break Up Break Down
    6. A Matter of Principals
    7. Marks for Effort
    8. The Maud Couple
    9. Yakity-Sax
    10. Father Knows Beast
    11. Molt Down
    12. The Hearth’s Warming Club
    13. Horse Play
    14. Grannies Gone Wild
    15. Non-Compete Clause
    16. What Lies Beneath
    17. On the Road to Friendship
    18. The Mean 6
    19. Sounds of Silence
    20. Friendship University
    21. The Parent Map
    22. Fake it Till You Make it
    23. A Rockhoof and a Hard Place
    24. The End in Friend
     
  5. Zero Motion

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    1. School Raze (finale)
    2. Fake It 'Til You Make It
    3. Surf and/or Turf
    4. What Lies Beneath
    5. Marks for Effort
    6. The Mean 6
    7. The Hearth's Warming Club
    8. School Daze (premiere)
    9. The Washouts
    10. The Maud Couple
    11. A Rockhoof and a Hard Place
    12. Molt Down
    13. Sounds of Silence
    14. A Matter of Principals
    15. The Break Up Breakdown
    16. Friendship University
    17. The End in Friend
    18. On the Road to Friendship
    19. Father Knows Beast
    20. Yakity-Sax
    21. Grannies Gone Wild
    22. The Parent Map
    23. Horse Play
    24. Non-Compete Clause
     
  6. Steamworks

    Steamworks Active Pony

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    I'll have to drop a proper post here in a few days when I get caught up, but I do have a minor service notice. The .us domain in that link is gonna go away in like a week because I can't use whoisguard on it. Tartarusgaming.download will remain. Just need to change the URL, and it'll keep working.
     
  7. Loganberry

    Loganberry Element of Custard

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    Cheers -- now fixed. :)
     
  8. Recurrent Trotting

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    The great
    Sounds of Silence <- la la laaaa!
    Fake It 'Til You Make It <- Fluttertude
    School Raze (finale) <-Harry Potter with ponies and great villain
    Horse Play <- Great to see Twi and Tia hijinks
    The Mean 6<- pony sass
    What Lies Beneath <- troll tree

    The good
    On the Road to Friendship
    The Washouts
    School Daze (premiere)
    The Hearth's Warming Club
    Father Knows Beast
    A Matter of Principals
    Molt Down
    Marks for Effort
    A Rockhoof and a Hard Place

    The 'meh but had some good moments'
    The Parent Map
    Surf and/or Turf
    Friendship University
    The End in Friend

    The bad
    The Break Up Breakdown <- Neither Mac nor Sugarbelle shone in this ep
    The Maud Couple<- How can you make a pony that is not likeable?
    Yakity-Sax <- this is not Pinkie
    Grannies Gone Wild <- meh in general but mdae worse by not being centred on AJ and having Dashie fill in instead
    Non-Compete Clause <-I don't even know who these ponies are D:

    Comparing this with my Season 8A rankings - I'm used to the new chars having great eps so that's no longer a big factor in pushing eps like School Daze and Non-compete up. Great to see another Fake it fan @Zero Motion and School Raze is being universally loved which is great :3

    Also just like last season (with fame and misfortune) it is a song ep that gets my top spot :D
     
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  9. Loganberry

    Loganberry Element of Custard

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    Some very interesting responses so far! It's a little early yet for a full summary post, but even after five lists, it's striking how much disagreement there is. In fact, there are already only two episodes everyone has put in their top ten -- "School Raze" and "The Washouts". Similarly, there are already only two episodes everyone has put in their bottom ten -- "Non-Compete Clause" and "The End in Friend".
     
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  10. Somerset Cider

    Somerset Cider Old Pony

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    And here's mine...

    1. On the Road to Friendship
    2. What Lies Beneath
    3. School Raze
    4. Horse Play
    5. Sounds of Silence
    6. A Matter of Principals
    7. The Mean Six
    8. Fake it Till You Make it
    9. A Rockhoof and a Hard Place
    10. Friendship University
    11. The Parent Map
    12. The Washouts
    13. School Daze
    14. Surf and/or Turf
    15. Grannies gone Wild
    16. The Hearths Warming Club
    17. The Break Up Breakdown
    18. The End in Friend
    19. Yakity -Sax
    20. Molt Down
    21. Marks for Effort
    22. The Maud Couple
    23. Non-Compete Clause
    24. Father Knows Best
     
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  11. Mane25

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    Had this prepared a few days ago with all that's left being to slot in the finale, which I have now watched.

    1: What Lies Beneath
    2: Sounds of Silence
    3: The Mean 6
    4: Surf and/or Turf
    5: The Parent Map
    6: School Raze (finale)
    7: Marks for Effort
    8: Molt Down
    9: On the Road to Friendship
    10: Father Knows Beast
    11: School Daze (premiere)
    12: A Rockhoof and a Hard Place

    13: Fake It 'Til You Make It
    14: The End in Friend
    15: A Matter of Principals
    16: The Hearth's Warming Club
    17: Yakity-Sax
    18: The Break Up Breakdown
    19: The Maud Couple
    20: Friendship University

    21: Horse Play
    22: The Washouts
    23: Grannies Gone Wild
    24: Non-Compete Clause

    1-12 being great, 13-20 being good but nothing special, 21-24 being a bit "meh". I keep changing my mind over the order of the top four so I consider those to be more-or-less equal.
     
  12. Loganberry

    Loganberry Element of Custard

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    Okay, there are seven lists in now, and I think that's enough for the first summary! Here is the full list -- tier boundaries this time have been set whenever there's a gap of 1.2 marks or more in the mean scores:

    Code:
                                      Mean     StDev
     1. School Raze (finale)          3.857    2.734
    
     2. What Lies Beneath             5.571    5.062
    
     3. Surf and/or Turf              7.143    5.984
    
     4. Sounds of Silence             8.429    6.876
     5. The Mean 6                    8.857    5.210
     6. On the Road to Friendship     9.429    6.079
     7. The Washouts                  9.714    6.130
     8. School Daze (premiere)       10.143    3.934
     9. Horse Play                   10.571    8.580
    10. The Hearth's Warming Club    11.286    5.376
    
    11= Fake It 'Til You Make It     12.571    8.791
    11= Marks for Effort             12.571    6.630
    13. Molt Down                    12.714    4.461
    14. The Break Up Breakdown       13.286    7.274
    15= A Matter of Principals       13.714    6.448
    15= A Rockhoof and a Hard Place  13.714    4.645
    17. Father Knows Beast           13.857    6.962
    18. The Parent Map               14.286    5.992
    19. Friendship University        14.714    6.945
    20. The Maud Couple              15.714    5.619
    
    21. Grannies Gone Wild           18.000    5.033
    22. The End in Friend            18.429    3.309
    23. Yakity-Sax                   18.857    4.811
    
    24. Non-Compete Clause           22.571    3.359
    The finale is a clear leader, and the one and only episode every single voter liked -- though I think we should be a little cautious there, as past experience shows that season finales tend to benefit from being fresh in people's minds and don't always hang on to all that affection. For example, "Twilight's Kingdom" is no longer quite as popular as it once was. "What Lies Beneath" and "Surf and/or Turf" are the other current medallists, though these have one or two mid-table rankings to go with their high ones.

    No surprises regarding the episode at the bottom of the table, as it was near-universally panned after its first airing. "Non-Compete Clause" has one 15th place, one 23rd and five wooden spoons. Ouch. Just above it are a trio of generally unpopular episodes, though all at least got into midfield with somebody. In the middle of the pack, there are two broad groups, but things are really pretty close, and it wouldn't take an awful lot for an ep to rise -- or fall! -- several places.

    The lowest standard deviation is for "School Raze", thanks to everyone liking the finale. The most controversial episode is "Fake It 'Til You Make It" -- though slightly to my surprise, "Horse Play" runs it very close. Both episodes have people who rated them very high and people who rated them very low. It'll be interesting to see what happens there as more lists come in -- something which may take longer than usual owing to the DF schedule still having four weeks to run!

    One final stat: the feeling many of us have that S8 started slowly and got better is indeed borne out by the rankings so far. The first half of the season averaged a score of 13.202; the second half averaged 11.798.
     
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    School Raze (finale)
    What Lies Beneath
    Surf and/or Turf
    The Washouts
    School Daze (premiere)
    Sounds of Silence
    A Rockhoof and a Hard Place
    The Parent Map
    The Hearth's Warming Club
    On the Road to Friendship
    Horse Play
    The Break Up Breakdown
    A Matter of Principals
    Friendship University
    Marks for Effort
    Fake It 'Til You Make It
    Grannies Gone Wild
    The End in Friend
    Molt Down
    The Mean 6
    Father Knows Beast
    Yakity-Sax
    The Maud Couple
    Non-Compete Clause

    I don't think I broke anything too much.
     
  14. Loganberry

    Loganberry Element of Custard

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    You put "The Parent Map" higher than most people, which bumps it up from 18th to equal 16th overall. Conversely, you ranked "The Mean 6" lower than anyone else, dragging it down from fifth to eighth overall. Your choices were pretty close to average for the other episodes.
     
  15. Robshi

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    I finally managed to watch the finale. I do hope the release dates are better organised next season.

    I am curious as to how my list shakes things up. Deciding the top spot out of my top 2 proved very difficult.

    Horse Play
    Molt Down
    What Lies Beneath
    On the Road to Friendship
    The Hearth's Warming Club
    The Washouts
    The Parent Map
    The Break Up Breakdown
    School Raze (finale)
    School Daze (premiere)
    A Rockhoof and a Hard Place
    Fake It 'Til You Make It
    Friendship University
    Surf and/or Turf
    Sounds of Silence
    Father Knows Beast
    The Maud Couple
    Grannies Gone Wild
    Yakity-Sax
    Marks for Effort
    The End in Friend
    A Matter of Principals
    The Mean 6
    Non-Compete Clause
     
  16. Loganberry

    Loganberry Element of Custard

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    Well, since you ask... surprisingly little. "Molt Down", which you rated the highest out of anyone rises four places (I think I could have predicted that ;)) and "The Mean 6", which you rated the lowest out of anyone falls two (that I wouldn't have predicted). The top three and the bottom six are still in exactly the same order they were before you voted.
     
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    Candy Yunagi Wishes she could be a cat

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    1. What Lies Beneath
    2. The Washouts
    3. The Break Up Breakdown
    4. On the Road to Friendship
    5. Surf and/or Turf
    6. Sounds of Silence
    7. School Raze (finale)
    8. The Mean 6
    9. The Parent Map
    10. Molt Down
    11. The Hearth's Warming Club
    12. Father Knows Beast
    13. Marks for Effort
    14. School Daze (premiere)
    15. Fake It 'Til You Make It
    16. Horse Play
    17. The End in Friend
    18. The Maud Couple
    19. Grannies Gone Wild
    20. Yakity-Sax
    21. Friendship University
    22. A Rockhoof and a Hard Place
    23. A Matter of Principals
    24. Non-Compete Clause
    Some difficult choices using the Preference Revealer. Mostly in a good way, except for the bottom two. Starlight was basically all that saved A Matter of Principals from last place.
     
  18. BronyMedic

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    Interesting season methinks. Really enjoyed the new cast and thought the finale was very good but generally enjoyed the season, although was a bit patchier watching it and had to binge in time for UKPC. However, Kirin are wonderful! =D

    1. Sounds of Silence
    2. Surf and/or Turf
    3. School Raze (finale)
    4. What Lies Beneath
    5. The Parent Map
    6. A Rockhoof and a Hard Place
    7. On the Road to Friendship
    8. School Daze (premiere)
    9. Friendship University
    10. Fake It 'Til You Make It
    11. A Matter of Principals
    12. Marks for Effort
    13. The Hearth's Warming Club
    14. The Break Up Breakdown
    15. Molt Down
    16. The Maud Couple
    17. The Mean 6
    18. Yakity-Sax
    19. The Washouts
    20. Horse Play
    21. Father Knows Beast
    22. Grannies Gone Wild
    23. The End in Friend
    24. Non-Compete Claus
     
  19. Loganberry

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    Time for another update! Thank you to everyone who's voted, and of course anyone else who'd like to do so is welcome to add their lists. (I'll do mine when I've watched the finale again in a few days.) This time, I've put in a tier boundary whenever there's a full point difference in the mean scores. Brief comments after the list:

    Code:
                                     Mean  StDev
    1. School Raze (finale)          4.273 2.970
    2. What Lies Beneath             4.455 4.275
    
    3. Surf and/or Turf              6.727 5.551
    
    4. Sounds of Silence             7.909 6.252
    5. On the Road to Friendship     8.273 5.217
    6. The Washouts                  9.000 6.419
    7. School Daze (premiere)        9.818 3.710
    8. The Hearth's Warming Club    10.636 4.653
    9. Horse Play                   11.091 8.055
    10. The Parent Map              11.727 5.918
    11= The Break Up Breakdown      11.818 6.555
    11= The Mean 6                  11.818 6.765
    13. Molt Down                   12.273 5.331
    14. Fake It 'Til You Make It    12.818 6.983
    15. A Rockhoof and a Hard Place 12.909 5.504
    16. Marks for Effort            13.455 5.628
    
    17. Friendship University       14.545 6.039
    18. A Matter of Principals      15.000 6.277
    19. Father Knows Beast          15.182 6.178
    
    20. The Maud Couple             16.727 4.880
    
    21. Grannies Gone Wild          18.364 4.105
    22. The End in Friend           18.909 3.048
    23. Yakity-Sax                  19.182 3.868
    
    24. Non-Compete Clause          23.091 2.700
    It's getting very tight at the top now, as "What Lies Beneath" did so well with the last few voters. There are two major changes in positions, as well: "The Parent Map" rises from 18th to 10th, while "The Mean 6" sinks from fifth to joint 11th. At the foot of the table "Non-Compete Clause" has fallen even further adrift of the pack and is easily the least popular episode I can remember.

    "Horse Play" is the most controversial episode, being rated everywhere from top to 23rd, while "Non-Compete Clause" is least controversial, because everyone disliked it!
     
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    Me too.
     

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