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Season 9A rankings thread (will be kept open)

Discussion in 'General My Little Pony Discussion' started by Loganberry, 30 June 2019.

  1. Loganberry

    Loganberry Element of Custard

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    It's FiM's very last mid-season hiatus, so that means it's time for our very last mid-season rankings thread! I was reminded at the most recent Worcester meet that I ought to get on with this, so here it is. It's been delayed until now partly because I wasn't sure what to do about "Rainbow Roadtrip", but I've decided not to included it. That keeps this list consistent with the S7 rankings (which didn't include the movie) and the S8 rankings (which didn't include "Best Gift Ever"). So this is just for the regular season.

    1. The double-length season premiere counts as one episode, so there are 12 in all.
    2. You must rank all the episodes.
    3. No ties are permitted. (Sorry, not negotiable -- the spreadsheet doesn't work otherwise!)
    4. You must have personally watched every episode.

    You can use this Preference Revealer link to help you decide an order. This has the episode titles ready-filled, so all you need to do is answer the questions. You can still work out your list manually if you prefer, or use a combination of the two methods. As long as the list complies with the four rules above, you're good to go! :)

    Thanks to @Steamworks for hosting the Preference Revealer.
     
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  2. Bridle Timeout

    Bridle Timeout I Love Twilight Sparkle

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    1. Sparkle's Seven
    2. Between Dark and Dawn
    3. Frenemies
    4. The Beginning of the End
    5. Student Counsel
    6. The Point of No Return
    7. Common Ground
    8. The Last Crusade
    9. Uprooted
    10. Going to Seed
    11. Sweet and Smoky
    12. She's All Yak
     
  3. moody magpie

    moody magpie One shall stand, one shall fall.

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    Well here's my rankings:

    1.Frenemies
    2.Sparkle's Seven
    3.The Beginning of the End
    4.Student Counsel
    5.The Last Crusade
    6.Between Dark and Dawn
    7.Common Ground
    8.She's All Yak
    9.Sweet and Smoky
    10.Going to Seed
    11.Uprooted
    12.The Point of No Return
     
  4. Mane25

    Mane25 Honorary Pony

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    Last month I went on holiday for a few weeks which has caused me to fall behind on the latest episodes for the first time in ages - that's the reason for my non-participation in episode discussions of late but now is a good time to catch up. Once I've done that I'll post my list.
     
  5. Somerset Cider

    Somerset Cider Old Pony

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    As it was me who prodded Logan to put up this thread I had better post something...

    1. Between Dark and Dawn
    2. Sparkle's Seven
    3. Frenemies
    4. The Beginning of the End
    5. The Point of no Return
    6. Going to Seed
    7. Common Ground
    8. Sweet and Smoky
    9. Uprooted
    10. Student Council
    11. The Last Crusad
    12. She's All Yak
     
  6. Candy Yunagi

    Candy Yunagi Wishes she could be a cat

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    1. Sparkle's Seven
    2. Student Counsel
    3. Frenemies
    4. Between Dark and Dawn
    5. The Last Crusade
    6. The Beginning of the End
    7. The Point of No Return
    8. Going to Seed
    9. Common Ground
    10. Uprooted
    11. Sweet and Smoky
    12. She's All Yak
    I have to say, each Preference Revealer decision, except for about two or three, was insanely hard. Looking over my list now, it feels right, though. Each of these could easily make my top 5 in another season, and my top 5 here could top most other seasons. They're Saddle Row Review or What Lies Beneath good, but maybe not The Perfect Pear good. Though Sparkle's Seven maybe isn't too far behind that...
     
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  7. Oilyvalves

    Oilyvalves Railway Pony

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    Here's my list.

    1. Frenemies
    2. Between Dark and Dawn
    3. Student Counsel
    4. The Beginning of the End
    5. Uprooted
    6. Going to Seed
    7. Common Ground
    8. She's All Yak
    9. Point of No Return
    10. Sparkle's Seven
    11. The Last Crusade
    12. Sweet and Smoky

    It's very tight for me in the 'mid-field'. Numbers 6-9 could all move around easy. I'm fairly sure on my top 3 and bottom 2 though.
     
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  8. Alliminaro

    Alliminaro Old Man Minaro

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    1. Frenemies
    2. Between Dark and Dawn
    3. Common Ground
    4. The Beginning of the End
    5. The Last Crusade
    6. Student Counsel
    7. Sparkle's Seven
    8. She's All Yak
    9. The Point of No Return
    10. Going to Seed
    11. Uprooted
    12. Sweet and Smoky

    Here I am, back for one of my twice-yearly posts to slap numbers on episodes! :p It's certainly interesting for me personally to look at this list, because really, I don't think there's been any obviously underwhelming episodes for me so far this season. There's definitely some that didn't resonate as well with me, but it's overall been a fairly solid half-season.
     
  9. Loganberry

    Loganberry Element of Custard

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    First my list, and then I'll get on to the first summary!

    1. Frenemies
    2. The Beginning of the End
    3. Sparkle's Seven
    4. Student Counsel
    5. Between Dark and Dawn
    6. Sweet and Smoky
    7. The Last Crusade
    8. Common Ground
    9. Going to Seed
    10. The Point of No Return
    11. Uprooted
    12. She's All Yak

    As with several other people, I found some of these decisions really tricky, so several episodes could move a few places if I did it again. I'm certain "Frenemies" is my number one, though. I'm also certain of my bottom two, though not absolutely positive they'd always end up 11-12 rather than 12-11.

    Okay, here's how things stand at the moment. For now, I've chosen to mark tier boundaries whenever there's a gap of one full point or more in the mean score. This may change as things go along.

    Code:
                                  Mean   StDev
    
     1. Frenemies                 1.857  1.069
    
     2. Between Dark and Dawn     3.143  1.864
     3. Sparkle’s Seven           3.714  3.450
     4. The Beginning of the End  3.857  1.215
    
     5. Student Counsel           4.857  2.610
    
     6. Common Ground             6.714  1.890
     7. The Last Crusade          7.429  2.699
     8. The Point of No Return    8.286  2.430
     9. Going to Seed             8.571  1.618
    10. Uprooted                  9.429  2.149
    11. Sweet and Smoky           9.857  2.268
    12. She’s All Yak            10.286  2.138
    No doubt at all about top spot, with all seven respondents so far placing "Frenemies" in their top three. Only two other episodes even got universal top-six ranking, these being "Between Dark and Dawn" and "The Beginning of the End". At the other end of the table, "She's All Yak" had three eighth positions, but four people handed Yona and Sandbar the wooden spoon. "Sparkle's Seven", slightly to my surprise, is the most controversial episode (highest standard deviation) so far, while "Frenemies" is unsurprisingly the most agreed-upon.

    So far, the people who've ranked an episode furthest from its consensus are:

    * Better than consensus: Oilyvalves, with fifth for "Uprooted" (currently lying 10th overall)
    * Worse than consensus: Oilyvalves (again!), with 10th for "Sparkle's Seven" (currently lying third overall)

    Some bloke called Loganberry also shamelessly ranked "Sweet and Smoky" higher than anyone else, which I'm sure had nothing whatsoever to do with its major role for Fluttershy. :oops:
     
  10. Bridle Timeout

    Bridle Timeout I Love Twilight Sparkle

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    I think this is one of the few times my list seems to be (broadly) in line with the averages. Usually it seems like I’m the one wrecking the average for one episode or another. :p
     
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  11. Danishbrony2011

    Danishbrony2011 Honorary Pony

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    1. She's All Yak
    2. The Last Crusade
    3. Sparkle's Seven
    4. Between Dark and Dawn
    5. Student Counsel
    6. Uprooted
    7. Frenemies
    8. The Beginning of the End
    9. Sweet and Smoky
    10. Going to Seed
    11. Common Ground
    12. The Point of No Return
     
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    1. Frenemies
    2. The Beginning of the End
    3. Student Counsel
    4. Sparkle's Seven
    5. The Last Crusade
    6. Between Dark and Dawn
    7. She's All Yak
    8. Common Ground
    9. The Point of No Return
    10. Sweet and Smoky
    11. Uprooted
    12. Going to Seed
    I still hate that Student Counsel had that b-plot with Silverstream, if it didn't it would easily be my number 2 but alas.
     
  13. Loganberry

    Loganberry Element of Custard

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    Thanks, you two. :) The top seven episodes actually stay in the same place overall after those lists have been added. "She's All Yak" rises two places to ninth, while "Going to Seed" drops two places to tenth.

    Thanks to Danishbrony2011 ranking "Frenemies" down in seventh, that episode is now not the least controversial. The honour of lowest standard deviation now goes to "Between Dark and Dawn", the only episode now to have universal top-six status among voters so far.

    Danishbrony2011 is responsible for the most eye-catching departure from consensus: ranking "She's All Yak" first. As it happens, Zero Motion's seventh place for that episode also becomes its second-highest rank.

    "Sweet and Smoky" is now dead last overall. Its poor performance is a major surprise to me, as I really don't remember it being that poorly received at the time. Personally I think it deserves better -- but like everyone else, I only get one vote here! :p
     
  14. Bridle Timeout

    Bridle Timeout I Love Twilight Sparkle

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    I can only speak for myself, obviously, but it was mostly a case of “it had to go somewhere” :p I didn’t think it was a bad episode, there are just others I prefer. :)
     
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  15. CuldeeFell

    CuldeeFell Ponies Rock

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    Done without looking at anyone else's:

    Great:
    1. Frenemies

    Very good:
    2. The Beginning of the End
    3. Between Dark and Dawn

    Good:
    4. The Point of No Return
    5. The Last Crusade
    6. Student Counsel

    Solid:
    7. She's All Yak
    8. Going to Seed
    9. Common Ground

    Underwhelming:
    10. Uprooted
    11. Sparkle's Seven
    12. Sweet and Smoky

    "Frenemies" was the only one that knocked it out of the park for me, and was always going to be my number one. "The Beginning of the End" and "Between Dark and Dawn" were also both very good and make a solid top three. At the bottom end we didn't have a "What About Discord" this time, so the bottom of my list is merely least liked rather than disliked.
     
  16. Loganberry

    Loganberry Element of Custard

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    Thank you! CuldeeFell's list produces only one change, with "The Beginning of the End" leapfrogging "Sparkle's Seven" into third place overall. As it happens, CuldeeFell's 11th position for "Sparkle's Seven" is a new low, beating its 10th from Oilyvalves.
     
  17. Robshi

    Robshi Young Dragon

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    Here's my list:

    1. Frenemies
    2. Sparkle's Seven
    3. Between Dark and Dawn
    4. Student Counsel
    5. Sweet and Smoky
    6. The Point of No Return
    7. She's All Yak
    8. Common Ground
    9. Uprooted
    10. The Beginning of the End
    11. The Last Crusade
    12. Going to Seed
     
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  18. Mane25

    Mane25 Honorary Pony

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    Just finished episode 13 so here is my list

    1: Frenemies
    2: The Beginning of the End
    3: Common Ground
    4: Between Dark and Dawn
    5: The Last Crusade
    6: Going to Seed
    7: Student Counsel
    8: Uprooted
    9: Sparkle's Seven
    10: She's All Yak
    11: Sweet and Smoky
    12: The Point of No Return

    Going in to it I wasn't sure what my number 1 would be, top 5 are very close.
     
  19. Loganberry

    Loganberry Element of Custard

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    All right then! With 12 results now in (and again, thank you to all who submit lists to this) I think it's time for an updated full list. So here it is:
    Code:
                                   Mean   StDev
    
     1. Frenemies                  2.000  1.809
    
     2. Between Dark and Dawn      3.500  1.624
     3. The Beginning of the End   4.250  2.563
     4. Sparkle’s Seven            4.583  3.655
     5. Student Counsel            4.917  2.151
    
     6. The Last Crusade           6.667  2.964
     7. Common Ground              7.167  2.329
    
     8. The Point of No Return     8.417  2.811
     9. She’s All Yak              8.667  3.229
    10. Going to Seed              9.000  2.045
    11. Uprooted                   9.167  1.992
    12. Sweet and Smoky            9.667  2.348
    Things have now resolved themselves into four broad tiers: "Frenemies" is out on its own at the top, followed by four episodes that are generally liked. A couple more in the middle, with a bunch of five fighting over the wooden spoon.

    Notable votes from the last two submitters: Robshi's fifth for "Sweet and Smoky" is a new high for that episode (beating my sixth!) while his 10th for "The Beginning of the End" is a new low, beating Danishbrony2011's eighth. Meanwhile, Mane25's third for "Common Ground" is its equal highest.
     
  20. Steamworks

    Steamworks Habitual Pony

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    1. Frenemies
    2. The Beginning of the End
    3. Sparkle's Seven
    4. Going to Seed
    5. The Last Crusade
    6. Between Dark and Dawn
    7. Common Ground
    8. The Point of No Return
    9. Student Counsel
    10. Uprooted
    11. She's All Yak
    12. Sweet and Smokey
     

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